Dialogue and audio clip between Ken Wilber and Andrew Cohen

http://www.andrewcohen.org/andrew/AndrewandKen.asp

Nice conversation. Very concerned with the subject of "incarnational nonduality", or how the nondual absolute is manifest in form. Perhaps the discussion is overly technical to my liking (that's a first for me), but it's fun to listen to two people whom I don't know talking in depth about nonduality.

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I'm just futzing around on the web, and I came across a good article by Andrew Cohen about this topic. In some ways, it's clearer than the interview excerpt I transcribed earlier this week. The first time I really read anything by Andrew Cohen was a few weeks ago, but a lot of what he says rings true for me. At least insofar as this human discussion of the nondual is concerned.

http://www.andrewcohen.org/teachings/gloryOfGod.asp

Now to tell you the truth, I'm no longer trying to figure out how this nondual absolute is manifest in humanity, nor the mechanics of how/when/where it first occurred (has it ever not occurred?). Neither do I wonder whether there is much *meaning* inherent to it; somehow it seems that any meaning attributed to the cosmos would be of our own conceptual design. I am, however, content to know that it happens (somehow), and that I'm here experiencing it.

The more simply I look at these things, the more sense they make to me. In deep meditation or extreme silence, I simply feel connected to a sense of quiet nothingness that has no particular quality or form. Perhaps you've felt something similar in deep prayer or quiet contemplation. Whatever this is, seems to be prior to my consciousness; that is to say, the 'place' from which my personal consciousness as Dustin has come. (presentnonexist, I'm talking from the standpoint of Dustin here, the apparent regular guy...)

But as I said, as to the mechanics of how this occurs, I don't really know. It's obviously a tremendously complicated science, but my very existence is proof that it is occurring, and that fact alone makes me at peace.