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iamom1: I like to think that David Koresh was actually Jesus in his second form and now God is so fucking pissed at us for killing him again that he has left us to rot. I mean...Jesus! What if someone kept killing your kids when all they were trying to do was save you? For fuckth thaketh man. Thats some wacky shit.
2: That's a pretty literal interpretation, man. Would you care to expand on that? Do you think there might be a deeper meaning to this story?
1: If I were God, I'd be sick of humans by now. I mean...imagine making play-doh people, and you spend like a whole week creating this wonderful place to live and all they do is go against your word, worship other Gods, ignore your floods, diseases, and all around revenge. Then they kill your son (maybe even twice!), or in some cases, thousands of times (schizophrenics who are convinced they are the savior. I mean, if/when Jesus comes back to Earth, we are going to lock him up in a loony bin for the rest of his life. If I were God, I would have abandoned the humans long ago. I mean, we destroyed this beautiful planet, and try to go against nature to live longer. Bah! I don't even believe in God, or Jesus (still debating my theories, but I will stick with not believing as of now). I do believe in a higher power, but I have my own interpretation of it, as does every religion.
2: Hold on a second, man. We haven't destroyed this planet yet - there's still time to turn things around if we're all committed to it. (And no, I'm not just being naïve about that.)
Leaving aside the discussion about the saviour, Jesus, and God, I'd like to hear more about this "higher power" idea. You said you do believe in one (a higher power), but have your own interpretation of it. What is that interpretation? And what makes you believe in it?
1: Um...there is no saving this planet, and don't dilte yourself into believing anything different. Go read "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. And basically, my higher power idea comes from the Kabbalah. You can do your own research on that too. Basically Judaism and Christianity stole most of their ideas from it. And why do I believe in it? Because I get results. I don't need to feel sorry for having original sin. I am accepted for who and what I am, and everything is balanced.
2: I think you're wrong about the planet, man. Go read "101 Ways To Save The Planet From Destruction" by Wei Wu-Wei.
Now, about this Kabbalah thing... I've never read that book, so I'll have to rely on you to tell me about it. But I'm not interested in what the book says, I'm interested in what you think. Tell me about that, man - that's the only interesting thing, I guarantee.
Hold on though, you did say something specific about this: you are accepted for who you are and what you are, and everything is balanced. I'd definitely like to hear more about that (it sounds very good), and I'll also make an observation about it: I don't think Judaism and Christianity stole those two ideas. Those ideas don't seem super central to either of those two religions in the popular context in which I've come to know them. Ask the Israeli police if they're accepting the Palestinians' original sin and if they're accepting them for who and what they are.
1: I never said Judaism and Christianity stole those 2 specific ideas. I am saying that they stole a lot of their prayers and basics from the Kabbalah. And the Kabbalah is not a book...there are many books on it however. It is an ancient Hebrew religion that was around before Judaism and Christianity. It was supposedly the holy religion that only saints were allowed to know. It was an oral tradition and over time it has been put into books. It is probably one of the most pure religions out there (I'm referring to how many times the bible has been re-written). Just search for Kabbalah on the internet - you will find millions of sites, I guarantee. And those who know about the programs are the ones who get the Money!!!
2: Okay, now you're starting to sound like a fundamentalist Christian, except you're saying "Kabbalah" instead of "Bible." You're still not telling me anything about your understanding of this higher power, and if you don't say something specific about it in your next reply, I'll be forced to assume that you're just propagating another religion just like so many others do.
2: That's a pretty literal interpretation, man. Would you care to expand on that? Do you think there might be a deeper meaning to this story?
1: If I were God, I'd be sick of humans by now. I mean...imagine making play-doh people, and you spend like a whole week creating this wonderful place to live and all they do is go against your word, worship other Gods, ignore your floods, diseases, and all around revenge. Then they kill your son (maybe even twice!), or in some cases, thousands of times (schizophrenics who are convinced they are the savior. I mean, if/when Jesus comes back to Earth, we are going to lock him up in a loony bin for the rest of his life. If I were God, I would have abandoned the humans long ago. I mean, we destroyed this beautiful planet, and try to go against nature to live longer. Bah! I don't even believe in God, or Jesus (still debating my theories, but I will stick with not believing as of now). I do believe in a higher power, but I have my own interpretation of it, as does every religion.
2: Hold on a second, man. We haven't destroyed this planet yet - there's still time to turn things around if we're all committed to it. (And no, I'm not just being naïve about that.)
Leaving aside the discussion about the saviour, Jesus, and God, I'd like to hear more about this "higher power" idea. You said you do believe in one (a higher power), but have your own interpretation of it. What is that interpretation? And what makes you believe in it?
1: Um...there is no saving this planet, and don't dilte yourself into believing anything different. Go read "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. And basically, my higher power idea comes from the Kabbalah. You can do your own research on that too. Basically Judaism and Christianity stole most of their ideas from it. And why do I believe in it? Because I get results. I don't need to feel sorry for having original sin. I am accepted for who and what I am, and everything is balanced.
2: I think you're wrong about the planet, man. Go read "101 Ways To Save The Planet From Destruction" by Wei Wu-Wei.
Now, about this Kabbalah thing... I've never read that book, so I'll have to rely on you to tell me about it. But I'm not interested in what the book says, I'm interested in what you think. Tell me about that, man - that's the only interesting thing, I guarantee.
Hold on though, you did say something specific about this: you are accepted for who you are and what you are, and everything is balanced. I'd definitely like to hear more about that (it sounds very good), and I'll also make an observation about it: I don't think Judaism and Christianity stole those two ideas. Those ideas don't seem super central to either of those two religions in the popular context in which I've come to know them. Ask the Israeli police if they're accepting the Palestinians' original sin and if they're accepting them for who and what they are.
1: I never said Judaism and Christianity stole those 2 specific ideas. I am saying that they stole a lot of their prayers and basics from the Kabbalah. And the Kabbalah is not a book...there are many books on it however. It is an ancient Hebrew religion that was around before Judaism and Christianity. It was supposedly the holy religion that only saints were allowed to know. It was an oral tradition and over time it has been put into books. It is probably one of the most pure religions out there (I'm referring to how many times the bible has been re-written). Just search for Kabbalah on the internet - you will find millions of sites, I guarantee. And those who know about the programs are the ones who get the Money!!!
2: Okay, now you're starting to sound like a fundamentalist Christian, except you're saying "Kabbalah" instead of "Bible." You're still not telling me anything about your understanding of this higher power, and if you don't say something specific about it in your next reply, I'll be forced to assume that you're just propagating another religion just like so many others do.
